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Chrysididae Netherlands:Elampus panzeri sensu Móczár 1964!

Postby pietsje » 29 Jul 2011 23:08

I've never seen it before, it has a small spikelike attachment on the back. Picture from today,29-07-2011, on Jacobaea vulgaris, The Netherlands, southern part. It was about 4,5-5mm. Is an id possible?
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Edit: From the Dutch forum of www.waarneming.nl I know now that it is Elampus panzeri!
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Re: Chrysididae Netherlands:Elampus panzeri !

Postby pietsje » 30 Jul 2011 09:21

Someone on the Dutch forum knew what it was (Theo Peeters), so thanks anyway (;-)
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Re: Chrysididae Netherlands:Elampus panzeri !

Postby Euchroeus » 30 Jul 2011 12:02

Hi Pietsje,

yes and no :D

I agree with the ID, but only if you follow Linsenmaier (1959).
Me (in my papers) and Niehuis (in Fauna.org, Fauna Germanica etc.) follow Móczár's interpretation (1964).
Thus the correct name should be Elampus constrictus (Foerster, 1853).
I found the type in Berlin (lost in one old paper box and unfortunately almost destried).
However this name should be changed again in the next future according to the my findings on other types.

In the Elampus case, it's always better to write (sensu Linsenmaier) or (sensu Móczár).

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Re: Chrysididae Netherlands:Elampus panzeri !

Postby pietsje » 30 Jul 2011 15:06

Paolo,
Thanks for the explanation! You can change the title in the most appropriate name if you want. I shall pass this information to Theo Peeters, since he gave me the id.
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Re: Chrysididae Netherlands:Elampus panzeri !

Postby Euchroeus » 01 Aug 2011 12:25

Hi everyone,

after a better examination of the pictures I can say that Theo was right and we can ID this specimen as E. panzeri sensu Móczár (1964).

Thanks Pietsje.
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Re: Chrysididae Netherlands:Elampus panzeri !

Postby pietsje » 01 Aug 2011 21:47

Paolo, thank you :thanks: !
Contacts and networks are important in entomology. If I can be of any assistance (not by knowledge :( ) as a linking pin, no trouble. So we can learn more all together.
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