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Plaese ID Chrysis > Chrysis terminata

PostPosted: 09 May 2016 09:46
by Horst Jux
Hallo Freunde,
Ist hier eine Bestimmung möglich?
Germany 05.05.2016






Viele Grüße aus Flensburg,
Horst

Re: Plaese ID Chrysis

PostPosted: 09 May 2016 11:17
by Euchroeus
Hi Horst,

it belongs to the C. ignita species group, but I'm not sure that it is possible to ID from the pictures...
Let's see if someone else can help us with your ID.

Re: Plaese ID Chrysis

PostPosted: 09 May 2016 18:23
by Alex
Chrysis terminata, a typical spring species which is similar to the true C. ignita, but its more slender and parallel sided, and the most obvious character is the 4 "teeth" on the transverse frontal carina (the ledge between the eyes)

Re: Plaese ID Chrysis

PostPosted: 09 May 2016 21:39
by Euchroeus
:doh:
shame on me ...

Re: Plaese ID Chrysis

PostPosted: 10 May 2016 17:48
by jeromec
there is only terminata with this frontal carina in Europe ? I think I saw it in Franche-Comté last week.

Re: Plaese ID Chrysis

PostPosted: 10 May 2016 19:12
by Alex
Well, its actually not a very typical specimen, I was a bit unsure about it at first. The apical teeth are shorter than they usually are, the second tergite is not as coarsely punctured and the toothed TFC is not as prominent as in "typical" C. terminata

Re: Plaese ID Chrysis

PostPosted: 10 May 2016 19:45
by jeromec
Hello : C. terminata is the only species of ignita Chrysis group which have these teeth on the frontal carina ?

Re: Plaese ID Chrysis

PostPosted: 14 May 2016 20:06
by jeromec
Hello, I am Jérôme, a new member and beginner in chrysidid (I have very intersted in social & solitary wasps, as well) : is Chrysis terminata the only species of ignita group with this prominent frontal carina ?
I have found some chrysidid (2015may 6 & 7)

Re: Plaese ID Chrysis

PostPosted: 17 May 2016 00:27
by Horst Jux
Herzlichen Dank Alex und Euchroeus. Viele Grüße aus Flensburg
Horst

Re: Plaese ID Chrysis

PostPosted: 17 May 2016 21:45
by Euchroeus
:welcome: Jérôme,

the frontal carina well developed with four tooth-like tubercles medially is more evident in C. terminata than in other species of the ignita group.
However, when the tubercles are clearly distinct ... well ... very likely you're looking at C. terminata.

A combination of different diagnostic characteristcs should guide you to C. terminata. In this case the frontal carina is similar to that of C. terminata, but other characters not...

Cheers
Paolo