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Please ID

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2016 19:39
by bogdan_pogadaev
Rostov/ july

Re: Please ID

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2016 08:14
by Euchroeus
Здравствуйте, Богдан!

This is another interesting form.
Your specimen in Russia is usually identified as Chrysis scutellaris, even if the colouration is obviously different from C. scutellaris collected in western Europe.

Conventionally the distribution of C. scutellaris is W Europe to central Europe,
then from eastern Europe and SE Europe only C. soror should be distributed. Nevertheless, I (and Arens) think that C. soror is only the eastern colour variation of C. scutellaris because there is any difference in genitalia and females are separated only on the collecting locality.
The specimens from Rostov are somehow in the middle between C. scutellaris and C. soror, but only few data are available from Russia and more material is needed for a better study.

С Уважением,
Paolo

Re: Please ID

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2016 09:46
by bogdan_pogadaev
Thanks, Paolo. If you want to see http://macroid.ru/showgallery.php?mode=box&cat=708

Re: Please ID

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2016 10:27
by Euchroeus
Thank you Bogdan!

it's very interesting for me
There are some fantastic pictures!
Some species (in the unidentified group) are very interesting,
I will check them later.

In the folder with Chrysis fasciata, none is C. fasciata. They are all Chrysis iris, then one Trichrysis cyanea and the last one should be Chrysis zetterstedti.

Cheers
Paolo

Re: Please ID

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2016 15:35
by bogdan_pogadaev
Exellent! I understand correctly?
http://macroid.ru/showphoto.php?photo=155749 - Chrysis iris
http://macroid.ru/showphoto.php?photo=151509 - Trichrysis cyanea
http://macroid.ru/showphoto.php?photo=148615&cat=64387 - Chrysis zetterstedti

Thanks!

Re: Please ID

PostPosted: 30 Jul 2016 08:32
by Euchroeus
Hi Bogdan,

yes, right!

Re: Please ID

PostPosted: 30 Jul 2016 10:35
by bogdan_pogadaev
Chrysis zetterstedti = Chrysis fasciata zetterstedti Dahlbom 1845? http://www.faunaeur.org/full_results.php?id=78996

Re: Please ID

PostPosted: 30 Jul 2016 22:18
by Euchroeus
Yes,

in Paukkunen et al. 2015 it was elevated to species rank.

Ciao